1) Thx JL, you made it plain and straight.

2) "Funny word that... "normal" I mean (Muffing)"
Here gcat made a very strong point, and that's why the Muffster reacted ... What is "normality" indeed ? This could lead to endless discussions. In the present context (homosexuality) let's put it as far as possible. Let's imagine a world where EVERYBODY would be homosexual. What would be the result, eh ? The end of us humans in 2 generations. Would this be "normal" ?
"masturbation is not normal (Peskat)"
Do you know that monkeys (male and females) do masturbate ?

3) "like the cruelty of nature (Peskat)"
Sorry Peskat, this is a nonsense. You apply human criteria on something that is not human. Nature is neither kind nor cruel, these adjectives are simply irrelevant. Just like to say that a lion is "cruel" because it eats "kind and pretty" gazelles. Read JL again. Would a lion feal "guilty" because it eats another beast ? I'm afraid this is a remnant of the (naive) XVIIIth Rousseau's philosophy and the catholic/protestant treacly iconography.